Slouching Towards Innovation – A Survey of the Surveys on China’s IP Environment

Here is a summary of the business surveys on IP protection in China, drawn from the European Chamber of Commerce in China, Business Confidence Survey 2015 (June, 2015), the US China Business Councils’ 2015 USCBC China Business Environment Member Survey (Sept. 2015), the American Chamber of Commerce 2016 Business Climate Survey (“Amcham China” Report, Jan. 2016), and Amcham Shanghai’s 2016 China Business Report (“Amcham Shanghai” Report, Jan. 2016), and others.

IP Issues a Core Concern

While IP issues are less dominant than in recent years, businesses report that IP is still critical to them. When Amcham China respondents in all sectors addressed what they considered their competitive advantage versus Chinese domestic entities, three of their top four perceived advantages were IP-related: Brands (74%), Technology & IP (63%), and Development and Innovation (59%). USCBC respondents listed IP concerns in a number four priority slot, having dropped from number 2 in 2014. However IP issues have averaged as a number 4.5 priority over the past ten years, so the drop is not that significant. According to Amcham Shanghai’s survey, 49% of respondents believed that lack of IPR protection and enforcement constrains their investment in innovation and R&D in China.

Still different IP concerns vary in their impact on different businesses. For example, tech companies in the USCBC survey noted the following IP-related issues in their top 10 challenges: Innovation policies (number 2), IPR enforcement (number 5), cybersecurity (number 6), government procurement policies (number 7), standards and conformity assessment (number 8) and antitrust/antimonopoly law (number 10).

IPR Enforcement is Improving

On the brighter side, 91% of respondents of the Amcham survey indicated that IPR enforcement had improved over the past five years, a view that was generally shared by USCBC respondents (38% reported some improvement over the past year).

USCBC’s survey addressed the most viable options for IP enforcement: administrative enforcement had a slight edge in terms of viability in some or most cases (78%), followed by civil cases (70%) and criminal courts (57%).

The data also suggests that trade secrets will be of continuing concern. Amcham China respondents were least satisfied with trade secrets legislation and enforcement (45/40%).  Amcham China respondents were most satisfied with patent legislation and patent enforcement (66%/54%), followed by trademarks (62%/51%) and copyrights (57%/48%). USCBC respondents similarly rated trade secrets as their top area of concern (32%) followed by trademarks (28%), patents (22%), and copyright (9%).

Of particular importance for trade secret protection are challenges noted in responses to surveys in attracting and retaining talent.   According to the Amcham survey, among the principal challenges in attracting the right talent were competition from local businesses (45%), and competition from other foreign businesses (34%). Data security and cybersecurity were also identified as concerns by many surveys.

China’s Efforts to Innovate Leads to More Foreign R&D in China

Innovating in China has clearly become a priority for the foreign business community. The EU Chamber notes that China R&D centers are increasingly achieving global levels of innovation, although a large percentage (42%) are primarily focused on product localization. According to USCBC, about 43% of large member companies had established an R&D center.

European companies viewed innovation as one of five most critical drivers needed to move the Chinese economy up the value chain. The USCBC report notes that more than 9 out of 10 US companies believe that innovation in China will be critical to their company’s future in China, with 40% of the companies reporting that that half their profits came from products designed, developed or tailored to local requirements (an increase from 32% last year). Companies prioritizing investment in R&D, according to the Amcham Shanghai survey, were in hardware, software and services (81%), automotive (65%), industrial manufacturing (55%) and health care (35%).

Continuing Concerns about Technology Transfer

USCBC reported that 59% of respondents expressed concern about transferring technology to China. Twenty three percent of USCBC respondents advised that their company had been asked to transfer technology to China and that central or local governments had requested the technology transfer 60% percent of the time. Concerns about technology transfer included maintaining protection of the proprietary information during certification/ approval (83%), protection of IP (75%), enforcing license agreements (51%) and the government dictating or influencing licensing negotiations (32%). Nonetheless, according to USCBC, technology transfer concerns fell out of the top twenty this year, to number 23 out of 30. However the USCBC noted that the companies impacted by this issue felt it “very acutely”.

Innovation Policies Not All Positive

Thirty two percent of technology and other R&D Intensive industries that responded to the Amcham China survey indicated that China’s increasing capability for innovation presented an important opportunity for their business. However, as the preceding data suggests, not all of China’s innovation and IP policies have been perceived to be positive by foreign industry. Fifty-five percent of USCBC tech companies stated that China’s innovation promotion policies had a significant negative impact on sales to date, or had a significant negative impact on sales or operation. Also of note was that 75% of USCBC respondents indicated that they limited the products that they introduced into China because of IPR concerns. In addition, 37% of USCBC respondents indicated that China’s level of IPR enforcement limited R&D activities in China, as well as limited products co-manufactured or licensed in China. The Amcham China survey also noted that 83% of technology R&D intensive companies feel less welcome than before.

Aggressive Antimonopoly Enforcement of Concern to Foreign Companies

Eighty percent of USCBC respondents were concerned about antimonopoly law enforcement in China. Among the key substantive issues were: (a) lack of transparency in AML cases (55%), excessive focus on foreign companies (50%), lack of clarity on key criteria and definitions (49%), lack of due process (29%), and inability to have legal counsel (26%).

Rule of Law: Another Overarching Concern

One common thread amongst antimonopoly and IP concerns was rule of law. The EU Chamber Report contains the most information on desires of foreign companies for the Chinese government to improve the rule of law, with 39% of European businesses rating the Chinese government’s efforts in 2015 as “below expectations”, and rule of law perceived as the main driver of future economic growth by 78% of respondents. For Amcham China, 57% of respondents believed that inconsistent regulatory interpretation and unclear laws were their top business challenge in China. Legal reforms were identified as the top reform priority by Amcham Shanghai members.  USCBC respondents rated uneven enforcement of Chinese laws, as their number nine challenge, however companies reported that the problems are persistent and worsened in the last year.

Putting China in Context: Not All That Patents Is Innovative

There are other reports that have been released have recently been released that also place China in a comparative perspective. The Information Technology & Innovation Forum, for example, recently issued a report Contributors and Detractors: Ranking Countries’ Impact on Global Innovation, which ranked 56 nations on how much they contribute or detract from global innovation. China ranked 44, and was classified as an “innovation mercantilist” that “significantly balkanize[s] both global production and consumption markets” and has “generally weaker protection” for intellectual property than the global norm. However, China does perform better than “innovation follower” countries in contributing to the global innovation ecosystem, largely due to investments in STEM fields and high numbers of graduates in those areas. China ranked twenty eight out of fifty six in terms of contributions, and was among the top five detractors from global innovation, according to this report (behind Thailand but ahead of India, Argentina and Russia).

Thomson Reuters in its China’s IQ (Innovation Quotient) Report (December 2015) analyzed China patent filings. The IQ Report noted that citations of Chinese patents had increased. In data processing patents, China had forward citation data of 1.17 This was much less than the United States (6.72), but comparable to Japan (1.82), and Europe (1.31), and better than South Korea (.78). Interestingly, another Thomson Reuters report on the top 100 innovators (2015), declined to include a single Chinese company. Huawei did appear as a top innovator in 2014. Its antitrust adversary, InterDigital, was considered a top innovator in 2015.

Policy Outcomes

The USCBC’s Board of Directors recently outlined its priorities for the year, which included: strengthening IP enforcement, including deterrent civil and criminal remedies; improving enforcement against online infringements; strengthening trade secret protections; harmonize patent examination practices; reforming China’s system of innovation incentives (HNTE incentives/service inventions). Other USCBC recommendations in transparency, antimonopoly law, and ecommerce also have IP-related implications.

Summary

There may be a number of reasons for the repetition in these reports, including a common core of concerns, a focus on issues in the media and bilateral relations, and common membership among the organizations. The location and membership of each organization can still result in different perceptions. Moreover, certain rights, such as copyrights, tend to be of core concern to fewer industries some of which, such as the entertainment sector, may be less extensively invested in China. As such, the surveys reflect concerns and priorities, and may not necessarily represent researched approaches to resolving specific problems of concern to all American industries. The surveys may also not align well with China’s own surveys such as on software piracy, where China has offered a counter-survey that counts other incidences of piracy, or on satisfaction with China’s IP system. As for satisfaction at least, it is all subjective. In some cases, the survey data likely aligns well with other factual or empirical data, such as licensing revenues, damages in antimonopoly law cases, IP enforcement activity, etc.

Here’s what this survey of the surveys suggests to me:

  1. China’s IP laws are generally good and its enforcement is improving but still problematic.
  2. China has become deeply interested in patents and innovation, which will present important strategic opportunities over time.
  3. There remains a low level of confidence in trade secret protection in China, which can be a significant impediment to China’s innovative ecosystem.
  4. China’s innovation environment has become increasingly complex and nationalistic, leaving many foreign tech companies with a sense that they are less welcome.
  5. Reforms in the legal system and antitrust enforcement are a high priority.

The US Chamber will be issuing its latest International IP Index February 10 in Washington, DC. Let’s see how China stacks up there…

Any corrections or comments? Something I have missed? Please write us!

 

Global Antitrust Institute Releases Its Comments on NDRC IP Abuse Rules

Attached are the English and Chinese comments of George Mason’s University Global Antitrust Institute (GAI) on the draft NDRC Guideline on Abuse of Intellectual Property Rights.  The comments were prepared by Koren W. Wong-Ervin, Professor Joshua Wright, Judge Douglas Ginsburg, and Professor Bruce Kobayashi.

I previously distributed on this blog the GAI’s response to the NDRC questionnaire here. Overall, these additional comments of GAI urge the NDRC to recognize throughout its Draft Guideline an IPR holder’s core right to exclude as a “legitimate” or “legal” use of IPRs, and to incorporate the “but-for” approach taken by the U.S. antitrust agencies of comparing the competitive impact of the IPR use against what would have happened in the “but for” world in the absence of a license.

The GAI’s comments also focused on the issues of applying “unfairly high price” prohibitions on IPR royalties. The GAI asked the NDRC to 1) explicitly recognize that “reasonable” compensation should reflect the risk-adjusted break-even price; and (2) state that, in determining whether a particular royalty is “unfairly high,” the NDRC will calculate a reasonable royalty as a minimum floor baseline using the hypothetical negotiation framework from U.S. patent damages law. The patentee should have the opportunity to prove, in addition, its lost-profits as part of its damages, which would seem to be equal to the profits denied by the “unfairly high” pricing provision.  GAI emphasized that the goal of a reasonable royalty calculation is to replicate the market reward for the invention in the absence of infringement, and explained that comparable licenses are often the best available evidence of the market value of the patent. The comments also discuss use of the “Georgia-Pacific” methodology to help determine minimum rates for what a willing licensee and a willing licensor would otherwise have negotiated if an unfair pricing calculation is to be applied.

The comments also consider complex portfolio licensing by urging NDRC not to unduly take into account whether some expired patents are included in a portfolio. The commenters suggest that it would be impractical, if not impossible, for portfolio owners to constantly renegotiate licenses (or provide updated patent lists) every time an IPR in a licensed portfolio expires or, conversely, every time new IPR is added to the portfolio, both of which occur commonly.  As GAI notes, portfolios include patents with a variety of expiration dates and the parties to the license take the variety of expiration dates into account when negotiating a price.   Moreover, patent claims may change due to reexaminations, court and administrative proceedings, which can affect how they read on a particular technology over time.   In my own experience, most licensees are seeking freedom to operate from parties asserting patents, rather than a technical solution found in the patent itself.  Indeed, former Chief Judge Rader at a recent conference hosted by SIPO noted that one of the biggest differences he saw between being a judge and a private practitioner is that judges (and enforcement agencies) may look at litigation as patent-based or even claim-based, while the real commercial world is concerned with portfolios and freedom to operate considerations  I would add one other factor that the comments don’t mention involving licensing expired patents – the patents may still have some litigation value and considerable commercial value post expiration if relevant statute of limitations have not expired. In many cases, such as pharma patents, the principal value is to be found towards the end of the patent term. Moreover, if global licenses are entered into, longer statute of limitations in countries like the United States, (six years versus two years in China, and ten years in many other countries) should necessitate that Chinese licensees actively consider taking licenses on expired patents up until the relevant statute of limitations’ expiration.

The drafters also suggest rejecting that a refusal to license constitute an abuse of IP, noting that a patent exhaustion doctrine could also make refusals to license difficult to apply since licensors may choose to license its patents to a manufacturer, user or distributor.

The comments also suggest a cautious approach, using an effects analysis, in looking at discriminatory analysis. My own personal perspective is that China’s regulatory regime insures that non-discriminatory licensing is almost impossible to universally achieve. More specifically, there will likely be a certain amount of discriminatory licensing, as foreign licensors to Chinese licensees have to provide indemnities, non-mandatory grantbacks and access to markets under Chinese law which they will not need to provide elsewhere, or which Chinese licensors do not need to provide in their own domestic market or to foreign licensees.

The commenters also suggest that that “the NDRC not impose an AML sanction for merely seeking injunction relief” when a standards essential patent is involved, or at worst only deny injunctive relief when the licensor seeks “supra-competitive” royalties, i.e., is engaged in patent hold-up by seeking royalties that are not consistent with prior commitments by the SEP holder. Finally, the commentators direct NDRC to consider as a last alternative adopting a rule similar to the European Court of Justice decision in Huawei vs. ZTE. That case would provide a safe harbor for an SEP holder seeking an injunction that (1) prior to initiating an infringement action, alerts the alleged infringer of the claimed infringement and specifies the way in which the patent has been infringed; and (2) after the alleged infringer has expressed its willingness to conclude a license agreement on FRAND terms, and presents to the alleged infringer a specific, written offer for a license, specifying the royalty and calculation methodology.  The ECJ would then put the burden on the alleged infringer to “diligently respond” to that offer, “in accordance with recognized commercial practices in the field and in good faith,” by promptly providing a specific written counter-offer that corresponds to FRAND terms, and by providing appropriate security (e.g., a bond or funds in escrow) from the time at which the counter-offer is rejected and prior to using the teachings of the SEP.  This approach is necessary to take into account the conduct of both the patentee and the accused infringer when considering whether to impose an AML sanction and is especially useful in the Chinese context where the data suggests there is a high degree of under-licensing.

The GAI also provided comments on numerous other provisions, such as refusals to license, the essential facilities doctrine, bundling, cross-licensing, grant backs, and no-challenge clauses.

Thanks to GAI for making these comments publicly available. Distributing comments such as these, when affected parties may be unaware of the opportunity to comment, and in order to encourage more informed public discourse.

NDRC IP Abuse Guideline Out For Public Comment

IPabuseguidelines

NDRC has released a draft for public comment of its Antitrust Guidelines for Abuse o IP知识产权滥用的反垄断指南(征求意见稿)(English language wordcloud above).   As with the NDRC questionnaire this appears to have been selectively released although some versions have also been made available on line by bloggers and the like.  Several organizations are commenting on it, and some bloggers have made its content publicly available.  The release of the guidelines has also been reported by the media based on NDRC presentations at public conferences.

Below is what I believe is the Chinese text regarding on abuse of dominance involving intellectual property rights.  Unfortunately I do not have an English text I can release.  I have added English captions so that non-Chinese readers can see some of the key areas discussed.

I did notice that the provisions on the availability of injunctive relief for infringement of standards essential patents thankfully address “whether the two negotiating parties in the process of negotiations have shown real willingness to negotiate”, which I believe is a significant problem in the Chinese environment.  Interestingly, in addressing the problem, the draft incorrectly identifies requests for injunctive relief as “the request of the patentee of a judicial body to issue an order to enjoin use of relevant patents.”  In fact, I believe the injunctive relief that is sought is typically to enjoin infringement, as there has been no authorized use of the patents in the absence of a license.

I am also wondering whether other agencies, notably MofCOM and SAIC are also preparing drafts of the abuse IP guidelines, particularly as SAIC only recently released its rules in this area.

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三、涉及知识产权的滥用市场支配地位行为

 (一)不公平的高价许可费 [unreasonably high royalties]

权利人有权就其知识产权获得合理的经济补偿,这是弥补其研发投入和激励创新的基本动力,权利人收取许可费的行为,通常不会受到《反垄断法》的规制。但是,如果权利人滥用其具有的市场支配地位,向被许可人收取不公平的高价许可费,会排除、限制竞争,损害消费者利益。

分析和认定知识产权权利人是否收取不公平的高价许可费,可考虑以下因素:

  1. 相关知识产权许可历史或者可比照的许可费标准;
  2. 权利人是否超过知识产权覆盖的范围收取许可费;
  3. 权利人是否迫使被许可人接受不合理的许可方式或者许可期限;
  4. 权利人进行一揽子许可时是否迫使被许可人接受过期或者无效的知识产权。拒绝许可是权利人行使知识产权的一种表现形式,一般情况下,权利人不承担与竞争对手或者交易相对人进行交易的义务。但是,具有市场支配地位的知识产权权利人无正当理由拒绝许可,同时符合下列条件的,可能排除、限制竞争:
  5. (二)拒绝许可 [refusals to license]
  1. 拒绝许可可能导致相关市场上的竞争或者创新受到不利影响,损害消费者利益或者公共利益;
  2. 许可该知识产权不会对权利人造成损害。(三)搭售 [tying]搭售可能对相关市场的竞争产生不利影响,主要表现为排除了被搭售品市场中其他供应商的交易机会,并损害了消费者的选择权。同时,搭售也可能对相关市场的竞争产生有利影响,主要表现为可以降低交易成本,促进产品功能的完善等。搭售的正当理由,需要在个案中进行具体分析。如果搭售是基于技术兼容、产品安全、产品性能、交易成本等方面的考虑而实施的,可能被认为具有正当理由。具有市场支配地位的权利人在交易中附加下列限制条件,可能排除、限制竞争:
  3. (四)附加不合理的交易条件 [Attaching unreasonable conditions of trade]
  4. 具有市场支配地位的经营者没有正当理由,违背交易惯例、消费习惯等或者无视不同知识产权或商品的性质及相互关系,将不同知识产权,或者知识产权与商品强制捆绑销售或者组合销售,并且使该经营者将其在搭售品市场的支配地位延伸到被搭售品市场,可能排除、限制竞争。
  5. 搭售是指权利人就一项知识产权以许可、转让等方式行使时,违背交易相对人的意愿要求其接受另一项知识产权的许可或转让,或者从权利人处或者权利人所指定的第三人处购买某种商品。
  6. 拒绝许可的正当理由,需要在个案中根据具体情况进行分析,通常考虑的因素包括:被拒绝的潜在被许可人缺乏必要的质量、技术保障或支付许可费的能力,能够确保技术的正当使用或者产品的安全和性能;被拒绝的潜在被许可人使用知识产权行为可能会对节约能源、保护环境等社会公共利益产生不利影响等。
  1. 要求交易相对人将其改进的技术进行独占性回授;
  2. 禁止交易相对人对其知识产权的有效性提出质疑,或者针对其提起知识产权侵权诉讼;
  3. 限制交易相对人利用竞争性的商品或者技术;
  4. 对过期或者无效的知识产权主张权利;
  5. 禁止交易相对人与第三方进行交易,或者对交易相对人与第三方的交易行为在对象选择、交易地域等交易条件方面进行限制。一般来说,知识产权权利人对不同的被许可人实施不同的许可条件,是权利人的自由。但是,具有市场支配地位的知识产权权利人对被许可人实施差别待遇,同时符合下列条件的,可能排除、限制竞争:
  6. (五)差别待遇 [Differential treatment/discriminatory treatment]
  1. 拒绝被许可人提出与其他被许可人实质相同的交易条件;[the party refused a license offers substantially similar conditions of trade of a prior licensee]
  2. 差别待遇对被许可人参与相关市场的公平竞争产生了显著不利影响。四、涉及标准必要专利的知识产权行使行为 [Concerning Implementation of Standards Essential Intellectual Property] 具有市场支配地位的标准必要专利权利人下列行使权利的行为,可能排除、限制竞争:标准必要专利权利人有权就其专利获得合理的激励性回报。但是,标准必要专利权利人所要求的许可费应当合理体现相关标准必要专利的经济价值。如果拥有市场支配地位的标准必要专利权利人向被许可人索取不公平的高价许可费,可能排除、限制竞争,损害消费者利益。
  3. 分析和认定标准必要专利权利人是否收取不公平的高价许可费,可以考虑以下因素:
  4. (一)收取不公平的高价许可费 [Receiving unfairly high license fees]
  5. 专利权人持有标准必要专利并不必然导致其具有市场支配地位。分析和认定标准必要专利权利人是否具有市场支配地位,可考虑以下因素: [the following may be considered](1)相关标准的市场价值与应用程度;[the value and use of the standard in the market](2)是否存在替代性标准;[are the substitutable standards](3)行业对相关标准的依赖程度及使用替代性标准的转换成本;…(4)不同代际相关标准的演进情况与兼容性;(5)标准必要专利许可双方的相互制衡能力等。
  6. 分析和认定是否构成差别待遇,在考虑被许可人的交易条件是否与其他交易对象实质相同时,[in analyzing and determining whether there is differential treatment, and considering whether the conditions of trade of a licensee are difference in substance, the primarily consideration should be from the the rightsholder perspectives regarding whether the intellectual property transaction costs are the same.]  主要从权利人的角度考量不同许可行为的交易成本是否相同。同时,还会综合考虑该知识产权的用途和使用该知识产权生产产品的属性、销售范围、销售量、销售额与利润率等因素。
  1. 被许可的标准必要专利的技术价值;
  2. 相关产业的技术特点;
  3. 符合相关标准的产品所承担的整体许可费情况;
  4. 相关标准必要专利所负担的许可承诺;
  5. 相关标准必要专利许可历史或者可比照的许可费标准;
  6. 相关产品市场上下游合理的利润空间。在标准必要专利许可中,下列交易条件可能排除、限制竞争:
  7. (二)附加不合理的交易条件 [Attaching unreasonable conditions of trade]
  1. 捆绑非标准必要专利;
  2. 强制要求免费交叉许可和回授;
  3. 强制要求被许可人给予许可人所指定的第三方免费专利许可;
  4. 就过期或者无效专利继续收费;
  5. 禁止被许可人质疑专利有效性或者针对许可人提起专利侵权诉讼。禁令救济是专利法赋予专利权人的救济手段,标准必要专利权利人有权依法申请禁令救济以维护其合法权益。但是,如果标准必要专利权利人利用禁令救济申请迫使被许可人接受其提出的不合理许可条件,可能排除、限制竞争。
  6. 分析和认定标准必要专利权利人申请禁令救济是否排除、限制竞争,可考虑以下因素:
  7. (三)滥用禁令救济 [abuse of injunctive relief]
  1. 谈判双方在谈判过程中所表现出来的真实谈判意愿;
  2. 相关标准必要专利所负担的有关禁令救济的承诺;
  3. 谈判双方在谈判过程中所提出的许可条件及许可条件的合理性;
  4. 申请禁令救济对双方谈判地位、相关市场及下游市场竞争和消费者福利的影响。

..consider the following factors:

  1. whether the two negotiating parties in the process of negotiations have shown real willingness to negotiate;
  2. whether the relevant standardsessentialpatentsare burdened by commitmentsrelating to injunctiverelief;
  3. the proposed licensing conditions and the reasonableness of the licensing conditions brought forth by the two negotiating parties during the negotiation process;
  4. the role of applications for injunctive relief in negotiations of the parties, competition in the relevantmarketand the downstream market, and the effectson consumer welfare.

本指南所称禁令救济,是指专利权人请求司法机构或者准司法机构颁发的限制使用相关专利的命令。

Injunctive relief as referred to in this guide, refers to the request of the patentee of a judicial body to issue an order to enjoin use of relevant patents.

NYU Program on Due Process for Foreign Business in China

I was honored to be invited to moderate the opening session for the 21st annual Timothy A Gelatt Dialogue at NYU Law on “Due Process for Foreign Business in China?” on November 12, 2015.

Here’s a quick summary the program (November 14, 2015):

There were presentations on intellectual property (by me/Mark Cohen), antitrust, human rights, detention and release of foreigners, and cybersecurity.

As several speakers noted business people have human rights too, although these interests are often ignored by the human rights community in favor of non-commercial issues. Another speaker also suggested that the current division between human rights and commercial law made little sense, and that human rights advocacy should pick up commercial concerns, while commercial concerns should also not ignore human rights issues.

In listening to various anecdotes, it became apparent to many of us that no matter how cautious, expert or how much of a “China hand” one is, one (or one’s client) may not be immune from detention, arrest or arbitrary proceedings, and that these legal proceedings may be initiated out of spite and well distanced from any kind of legal accountability. One speaker suggested that in the current environment, China has neither rule of law nor rule by laws, but rule by agency in a range of fields.

I gave a presentation on due process concerns for foreigners, noting that there were increasing concerns about national treatment and differential procedures and remedies for foreigners in IP litigation, including detention during the pendency of a disputed legal matter, extended time periods for civil litigation, delays in evidence gathering and extra-territorial reach of the courts. I also briefly discussed how foreign courts were handling disputes that involved concerns over handling of matters by Chinese courts or enforcement agencies (notably Gucci and Vringo). Some speakers also expressed concern about an increasing extraterritorial reach of the Chinese courts.

Regarding antitrust and intellectual property, one expert in the field asked a question about whether Chinese practices were mercantilistic/outliers, or simply reflected the interests of “implementers” vs innovators.  I noted that I had heard these perspectives expressed previously, but I wondered if China was in fact proposing a different kind of question: whether antitrust law demanded any proportionality with IP protection as it seemed to me that imposing nearly one billion dollars in damages (in the Qualcomm case) is disproportionately high in a country where average patent damages are 20 to 30,000 dollars, and even injunctive relief can be difficult to enforce.

There appeared to be widespread support regarding the Xi/Obama outcome on establishing a dialogue on cybersecurity. Some speakers noted that cybersecurity had widely different concepts in the United States and China, with the Chinese focus on cybersecurity referring to the overall control by the state of the Internet and related infrastructure.  The Chinese government was also interested in direct regulation of the Internet with more government controls.

Several speakers saw an important relationship amongst cyberespionage, innovation policies and antitrust as calculated efforts by China to develop its technological edge. In addition, several speakers from a range of disciplines noted that China and Chinese officials were now increasingly engaged in efforts to advance its own perspectives in areas such as human rights, cybersecurity/internet governance and antitrust, which may increasingly challenge the United States’ role as a global norm setter.

Altogether, it was a great group of thought leaders with divergent backgrounds but convergent and deep interests in China. My congratulations to Jerome A. Cohen, Ira Belkin and NYU’s Asian law Institute.

ABA Section of International Law Comments on NDRC Questionnaire on IP Abuse Guidelines

The American Bar Association has once again made publicly available its response to the NDRC questionnaire on drafting IP abuse guidelines, attached here.  This is a useful and large bilingual download which contains useful background materials.

Some of my prior recent blogs on this questionnaire include a posting of George Mason University’s comments, and my comments on the questionnaire itself.

Thanks again to the ABA for the transparency of its efforts!